patching...
Welcome back, Patch Blogger!

No Back-In Parking for Broadway Streetscape Project

Broadway will not implement back-in angle parking in the streetscape project.

 

The Newport City Council voted to receive a recommendation from City Manager Jane Howington to keep parking in the Broadway Streetscape Project front-in angle parking during Wednesday night's meeting.

City staff conducted a feasibility investigation on implementing back-in angle parking. A report, provided by the Louis Berger Group, recommended that parking should remain as initially designed for several reasons.

According to the report, there have only been an average of 2.5 angle  parking accidents on Broadway. The report also cited public resistance to back-in parking, especially from the elderly, could be problematic.

Instances from Brunswick, ME and Plattsburg, NY, were also cited in the report, where communities adopted and later reversed back-in angle parking after negative publicity.

Confusion between traditional parking near Washington Square was also a concern.

A redesign of the Broadway Streetscape Project to incorporate back-in parking was estimated at about $49,500 in additional coss.  Modifications required in the redesign included changes to the roadway design, landscaping design, street lighting  and utility design, stormwater design and traffic design.

Regarding scheduling implications, the redesign would have required four weeks  to implement the changes.

Bari George, of Bike Newport, told the city council despite the concerns, she hoped the city would consider back-in parking should a new opportunity arise.

The benefits of back-in parking have been substantial enough around the country to have gained acceptance and the city should be prepared to consider the method, she said. 

Related Topics: Back-In Parking and Broadway Streetscape project

Robert Bailey

9:06 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Back in parking is a challenge for poor students.

A lack of accidents, as cited, is no reason NOT to improve parking systems. Yes, angled backing is a driving skill. And also, car doors shield car occupants, car trunks are more safely accessed, studies have suggested easy access improves store sales, and no longer are cyclists threatened as drivers back OUT.

The Newport City Council's submissiveness to the Manager is second only to the lax stewardship on imagining a better Newport. Never is the council, as a whole, prepared and educated about the intellectual material.

In the back-in parking example, the council, as a body, failed to attend the screening of "Urbanized" by Newport Film. It failed to challenge or embrace the recent Architectural Forum/Washington Square Roots presentation by Dan Burden, of the very successful Walkable and Liveable Communities Institute. The economic rationale for HAVING angled back in parking is available. City Hall parries with little more than a wilting incuriousness.

(Does backing in to park take time and cost a little more--yes. Were the cities that did so happier that they did--yes!)

The more we hear about concerns local drivers having issues with the bike lanes at First Beach, and now backing into spaces on Broadway, the more it appears the common good might be having these talentless drivers OFF the road, and onto their own feet.

Reply
Comment_arrow

5th Warder

9:40 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Also many cars now have back-up cameras that display whats behind you on a screen on the dash. These will be standard equipment on everything in a few years. Backing into a parking spot will be EXACTLY as easy as pulling in nose first, even for the most inept, change-resistant drivers.

nptresident

10:02 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

I disagree. Call me an ole fuddy duddy, but backing up is probably the most dangerous driving maneuver. I understand that we want to make the streets safer for bicyclists but this seems excessive. Also, I can not tell you how many bicyclists are not careful on city streets. They travel up Spring St and Thames St. in the wrong direction, they do not stop at stop signs or red lights, they weave in between cars. It's ridiculous. Hardly any of them even wear head gear. And now I am supposed to back in to a spot - and no, I do not have a camera in my car - for their safety? Are you kidding me? I feel for the families of those whole have lost loved ones but none of these accidents happened on Broadway. This seems like change for change sake. The new striping on Memorial Blvd is fine. Great, let's be aware of bicyclist. But let them know that they are required to follow the rules of the road as well.

Reply
Comment_arrow

ICanDrive

10:46 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Nptresident, if you drive nose in to a spot, how do you get out? That's right folks, you still need to do some backing whether it's in or out. Learn how to drive you ole fuddy duddy.

Comment_arrow

Herb Armstrong

10:47 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Yes, backing up IS more dangerous (certainly not the most dangerous maneuver), and that is exactly why back-in parking makes sense. The back up maneuver is done when you're leaving the street, rather than entering it. It is simply safer for the driver. That it improves bicyclist saftey is merely a secondary (or tertiary) benefit. The primary benefit is to facilitate moving back into the road and entering the trafic stream more smoothly with better visibility and more sure handling.

Comment_arrow

nptresident

12:26 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Gee, thanks ICANDRIVE for the advice. Yes, you do have to back out but you are backing out to a larger space (i.e. the road) than a small slot of a parking space. Is this really an issue for Broadway? Do we have that many problems backing into the street????? And if it was proposed for Broadway, why not Washington Square? Why not all parking lots? This is a phony issue. I am glad to see the City Council and the City Manager see that way.

Chris Christensen

10:28 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

If, apparently, this idea is for the safety of the bike riders, let them learn rules of the road. When you are backing OUT of a space you look for oncoming traffic and wait until you see a spot to back up out into the roadway. Then here comes some clown flying down the street, head down, and pedaling like mad and gets teed off because you dared to back out. Growing up in Newport, we did not have bike lanes painted on the road, We learned to look at every car we were coming up on to see if someone was in the drivers seat and be aware that a car door could open in front of us or someone could start to back out of a pull in space. Bike riders tend to think...Me, Me, Me and disregard rules of the road which are there for everyone. You are not special. Learn the rules, and make yourself more visible to other drivers. You want to cause the vehicle driving public to change the way people have been parking for ages. You mustve been born yesterday. Most of us were not.

Reply
Comment_arrow

nptresident

12:33 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Agreed. We are supposed to change while bike riders flaunt the law all the time. Last summer, the police even had to put up a big flashing sign on Thames to tell bike riders not to go the wrong way or they would be fined. Check the four way stop at Farewell and Marlborough. Bike riders never stop. NEVER. They think cars should yield to them while they come full speed ahead through the intersection. The summer time is especially dangerous.

nmb

12:03 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Driving in reverse requires more care and attention by nature, therefor I (and I presume most drivers) are more prone to checking what's behind, checking that it's clear, and going slowly when backing OUT of parking spaces. On the other hand, pulling forward out of a parking spot, means i'm more likely to put the car in gear and my foot on the gas. So it seems to me that we should line up the times when people are naturally more careful and the times when there are more potential obstacles: leaving parking spaces and entering traffic. ...Also, yes, low number of accidents IS in fact a reason to keep the current procedure, I'm a firm believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Reply

Tom

7:33 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

It doesn't take a consultant to figure out that it was a bad idea.
Stop screwing up traffic for a minority entity.

Reply

Leave a comment